Curse

fireflyry · Jun 07, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by Damian979

lol The topic was actually best PvE sin, which in my opinion is the one that doesn't expect everyone else to change their build to cater to theirs regardless.

Have you even used a MS/DB build?

MS/DB does'nt require such hugely dramatic team changes as I've already explained and 99% of human teams welcome a MS/DB spam build especially with perm-SY, very rarely do they need to change their builds because I'm there.

Apparently insane AoE DPS and perma +100 armor is quite attractive to many groups and as stated it's pretty obvious Jebus has a specific build or team build issue if he's not getting the most out of it.

We know what the topic is man, your replies were clearly directed at my specific advice to Jebus on how to better run and enjoy a MS/DB spam build, not the header, and they really hold no water or actual constructive merit in this regard and certainly don't encourage players like Jebus to play one of the best Sin builds in the game.

I'm trying to offer him advice on how to effectively play the build which is what he asked, your just telling him not to play it.

GG

If you don't like the build fine but don't discount it's merits or advice given to others on how to make the most of the build merely because it's not your personal preference or your always playing in teams where it's useless.Your in-game experience and team builds do not discount the awesomeness of DB spam especially when partnered with SY.

I'd go play more HM and...again... attempt to realize my comments regarding DB/MS were directed at one players specific request for comment on his problem using the build, not your tangent into how much you dislike it.

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Originally Posted by Damian979

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Unreal Havoc · Jun 07, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

To sum it up, one player does not make a team (unless you Hero & Hench).

Damian979 · Jun 07, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireflyry

your replies were clearly directed at my specific advice to Jebus on how to better run and enjoy a MS/DB spam build, not the header, and they really hold no water or actual constructive merit in this regard and certainly don't encourage players like Jebus to play one of the best Sin builds in the game.

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Originally Posted by Damian979

Try using interupts or conditions, which can still include Moebius if you want,to compliment the damage being done by a team that is obviously doing the job well.

read more, talk less

Because I have never said MS/DB was a bad build or that I didn't like it, just that the ability the be flexible with it is more important. The only disagreement I've ever had with your statements is that you expect an entire team to change around one build instead of changing the build to match the team. Again, fine if you want to H/H all the time with one build but not practical in the sense of working with people.

So instead of arguing two sides of the same coin lets just agree to disagree on this one and we can stop crapping up this thread.

fireflyry · Jun 07, 2008, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by Damian979

Try using interupts or conditions, which can still include Moebius if you want,to compliment the damage being done by a team that is obviously doing the job well.

MS/DB spam is contributing, condition spread and interrupt in all but specific boss areas = fail and is better accomplished by other team members or chucking an appropriate weapon spell on your Rit.

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Originally Posted by Jebus

I ran the DB/MS build today on my sin, and I was bored very fast. I usually never got to use MS, as my opponent was already dead, rarely I was able to use DB. Making a chain in PvE thus seems pretty useless to me. Any comments?

He's saying he's not even getting to use Moebius, in fact he's saying he can't even get a chain off.

Your suggested solution....add conditions and interrupts.

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Originally Posted by Damian979

I promise to read more and post less.

Fixed.

Damian979 · Jun 07, 2008, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Lol

And now it comes down to mis-quotes and personal attacks

Intelligence has left the building, Gnight people!

fireflyry · Jun 07, 2008, 08:21 AM // 08:21

Firstly I never personally attacked you, contradict much?

Secondly it's easy to try and take the moral high-ground when you edit your post after my response.

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Originally Posted by Damian979

So instead of arguing two sides of the same coin lets just agree to disagree on this one and we can stop crapping up this thread.

Best thing you've said all thread and I fully agree.

Ciao.

Super Igor · Jun 07, 2008, 10:41 AM // 10:41

to really sum it all up:

Heroes > people

never pug, never join groups, allow only one extra person with his/her heroes to your group and you should be fine.

Bobby2 · Jun 07, 2008, 04:22 PM // 16:22

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Last edited by Damian979 : Yesterday at 11:28 PM.

Then:

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Last edited by fireflyry : Yesterday at 11:20 PM.

Damian, busted much?

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

to really sum it all up:

Heroes > people

never pug, never join groups, allow only one extra person with his/her heroes to your group and you should be fine.

I wish I could bring my peepz to AB

petrorabbit · Jun 07, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

I wish I could bring my peepz to AB

Indeed, they'd be much better than some of the morons who don't understand that capping = win.

fireflyry · Jun 13, 2008, 01:24 PM // 13:24

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Originally Posted by petrorabbit

capping = win.

Amen.

12chars.

Bobby2 · Jun 14, 2008, 06:55 PM // 18:55

Edited first post.

petrorabbit · Jun 14, 2008, 08:10 PM // 20:10

About time you lazy nub

RavagerOfDreams · Jun 14, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26

heheheh

ima steal your stuffz and put it in the guide mmkay?

Super Igor · Jun 14, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Steal teh spamz?

RavagerOfDreams · Jun 14, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

i ninja'd his original post

cuz i r sneaky

Bobby2 · Jun 14, 2008, 11:17 PM // 23:17

EDIT:

HAHAHA I sneakz in my Hero builds. Why I modded Racway...

1. Orders don't quite work out for me.
2. I keep missing Pyre - [[Broad Head Arrow]!
3. No healz on my team - NPC Monks ftw!
4. /Mo offers no leet utility.

Me:
[build prof=A/W name="Teh Blossom Engine" box dagger=12+1+1 crit=12+1][golden fox strike][wild strike][save yourselves][death blossom][moebius strike][critical eye][critical agility][assassin's remedy][/build]
--- Makes things go boom.

Morgahn:
[build prof=P/N name="Enfeebling Fury" box leadership=11+1+1 spear=11+1 command=8+1 curses=3][aggressive refrain][anthem of fury][enfeebling blood][spear of redemption][anthem of envy][disrupting throw][rip enchantment][signet of return][/build]
--- Buff/debuff vs Melee (thx Tyla).

Hayda:
[build prof=P/Me name="Epidemic Swipe" box leadership=11+1 spear=11+1+1 command=8+1][aggressive refrain][spear swipe][epidemic][spear of redemption][go for the eyes][merciless spear][expel hexes][hexbreaker aria][/build]
--- Clean up/debuff vs Casters.

Master of Whispers:
[build prof=N/Rt name="Jagged Splinter" box death=12+1+3 sr=8+1 channeling=10 resto=2 blood=1 curses=1][animate bone minions][jagged bones][death nova][dark bond][putrid bile][splinter weapon][rip enchantment][death pact signet][/build]
--- ...we all love him, right?

Suggestions are welcome as ever.

Super Igor · Jun 20, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

/12

Bobby2 · Aug 04, 2008, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Hero talk! Who, what, and why?

Engage!

RavagerOfDreams · Aug 05, 2008, 12:42 AM // 00:42

o baby hero discussion

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don't always run the MM depends on area

Unreal Havoc · Aug 05, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Assassins have now turned Necromancer and raised this thread from the dead.